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Re: A Work of Art that Changed the World

Postby Antero on Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:26 am

The Illiad.

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Re: A Work of Art that Changed the World

Postby milk on Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:42 am

Most do...for good and bad. Even crap art.
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Re: A Work of Art that Changed the World

Postby ubercat on Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:50 am

milk wrote:Most do...for good and bad. Even crap art.


Breakfast at Tiffany's changed the world?
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Re: A Work of Art that Changed the World

Postby jurgis rudkus on Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:56 am

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Christ, why didn't I, the hero of the story, think of this?

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Re: A Work of Art that Changed the World

Postby milk on Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:00 pm

ubercat wrote:
milk wrote:Most do...for good and bad. Even crap art.


Breakfast at Tiffany's changed the world?


Yes.
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Re: A Work of Art that Changed the World

Postby ubercat on Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:21 pm

milk wrote:Yes.


Oh great. I was hoping you would say no.

I'm gunna just take a wild guess, but I think perhaps Breakfast at Tiffany's allowed more total cunts to metastasize into American culture. Again, just a guess.
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Re: A Work of Art that Changed the World

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Re: A Work of Art that Changed the World

Postby noise&light on Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:05 pm

Bunny Yeager's Bettie Page photos.
Touko Laaksonen's Tom of Finland drawings.
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Re: A Work of Art that Changed the World

Postby Steve V. on Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:28 pm

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This album probably spawned an entire generation of Italian children. Bed springs still sing along.

And those Italian children probably became good artists or cooks.

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Re: A Work of Art that Changed the World

Postby Jodi S. on Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:31 pm

Steve V. wrote:Image

This album probably spawned an entire generation of Italian children. Bed springs still sing along.

And those Italian children probably became good artists or cooks.

Thanks Frank.

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Re: A Work of Art that Changed the World

Postby SecondEdition on Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:33 pm

That album has a claim at being the first true concept album.
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Re: A Work of Art that Changed the World

Postby Steve V. on Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:38 pm

SecondEdition wrote:That album has a claim at being the first true concept album.


The concept being "Sad Sinatra make you fuck."
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Re: A Work of Art that Changed the World

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Re: A Work of Art that Changed the World

Postby SecondEdition on Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:52 pm

Steve V. wrote:
SecondEdition wrote:That album has a claim at being the first true concept album.


The concept being "Sad Sinatra make you fuck."


Which is a far worthier concept than most.
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Re: A Work of Art that Changed the World

Postby Ernest on Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:58 pm

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If this didn't scream fake, this could've been the death knell of conceptual art.
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Re: A Work of Art that Changed the World

Postby MisterX on Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:45 pm

Skronk wrote:The Rape Tunnel

If this didn't scream fake, this could've been the death knell of conceptual art.



I'm all for conceptual art so long as it's not in an art gallery. Speaking of which, that guy who pretended to starve a dog in Costa Rica had some serious impact, even if it was just making lots of people angry.
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Re: A Work of Art that Changed the World

Postby Steve V. on Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:53 pm

MisterX wrote:
Skronk wrote:The Rape Tunnel

If this didn't scream fake, this could've been the death knell of conceptual art.



I'm all for conceptual art so long as it's not in an art gallery. Speaking of which, that guy who pretended to starve a dog in Costa Rica had some serious impact, even if it was just making lots of people angry.


Yeah, both these fucks can get murdered.
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Re: A Work of Art that Changed the World

Postby A Fine Chaos on Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:43 pm

The Screaming Clown thing at the Art Institute's modern wing. If, by changing the world, you want to include the destruction the cognitive thought, artistic inquiry and reduce the creative act down to a contest of how many people can we annoy with grating monotony. As a future for art, this would certainly change it.

"Hey kids, let's see how many grade school students we can get to turn their back on the arts so that they can have really useful lives as insurance company employees."

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Re: A Work of Art that Changed the World

Postby Earwicker on Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:44 am

I'm sure I read somewhere that Dr Strangelove may have influenced the development of the Mutually Assured Destruction cold war policy. Maybe a bad thing, but maybe prevented nuclear war.

Re Hitler, I recently watched a documentary that for the life of me I can't remember the name of. Heard of it through the doco thread - 'architecture of evil' maybe? Anyway, was viewing the Nazi period and its goals as a grand art project, looked at the art influences on Hitler and his hatred of 'degenerate' art. Was very good. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was a work of fiction and that had a pretty big influence.

There are probably plenty of movies and books which assisted in breaking down the general acceptance of bigotry. In the Heat of the Night for example or Victim with Dirk Bogarde.

Generally I'd say art has a cumulative effect. I wouldn't say Picasso or Duchamp, or one piece of their work, changed the world significantly but they influenced others who influenced others who, combined, create a world view within which politics has to operate. Often politics just changes to conceal itself from the new world view's increased sensitivities but there are some exceptions.

There are probably plenty of examples of art directly influencing scientists, though I can't think of any off the top of my head.
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Re: A Work of Art that Changed the World

Postby Cranius on Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:59 am

Earwicker wrote:There are probably plenty of examples of art directly influencing scientists, though I can't think of any off the top of my head.


Buckminster-Fuller was certainly influenced by a polyhedral sculpture that he used to see everyday on his way to work. Apparently, it was a geodesic dome made out of car bonnets constructed by some hippy artists.
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