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Postby alexdamon on Fri Jun 11, 2004 2:52 am

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Postby n-eight on Fri Jun 11, 2004 5:33 am

looks like Kimberly Stahr's copy:
http://www.petdance.com/actionpark/shellac/discography/futurist/s.html

which would make sense considering the location on the ebay auction.

for shame.
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Postby Dylan on Fri Jun 11, 2004 7:33 am

Erotic films must not be paying the bills nowadays.


I agree, tsk tsk.
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Postby spoot on Fri Jun 11, 2004 9:42 am

Dylan wrote:tsk tsk


"tsk tsk" my ass! $280, with 4 days left in the auction? That's some serious cash! I've bought cars for less!

If only I could get the damned cat scratches out of my copy...
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Postby steve on Fri Jun 11, 2004 7:00 pm

Hey, it was a gift, and when you get a gift, you're entitled to do whatever you like with it.
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Miss Manners

Postby Redline on Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:12 pm

when you get a gift, you're entitled to do whatever you like with it.


I disagree. Gifts should not be sold or given away. That's what my moms taught me, anyway.


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Postby b on Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:16 pm

I would have to say I agree with Redline 100%.

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Re: Miss Manners

Postby stewie on Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:17 pm

Redline wrote:I disagree. Gifts should not be sold or given away. That's what my moms taught me, anyway.


Do you take presents out from storage when guests come over too? My mother does that, and I think I've inherited it.
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Re: Miss Manners

Postby johnnyshape on Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:33 pm

Redline wrote:
I disagree. Gifts should not be sold or given away. That's what my moms taught me, anyway.


Jay


I disagree with your mom. My mom, who is a complete fucking purple-skirted hippy, says if you get an unwanted gift, you should give it or sell it away as soon as poss to charity or someone who wants it.
If you have it sitting there it takes up space in your life, and every possession you have drags down your energy. You should only have things in your life that inspire you; and someone else might find a use or inspiration from it. Thus karma is restored (or something).
Slightly more detailed advice like this led me to gradually get rid of about a third of my possessions (records never listened to, clothes, broken things, adolescent tokens, hipster crap, unused music gear, computer games, kitchen stuff, garden stuff, tons of general detritus etc.) over the last year, and I have never felt better or missed any of it.

She (if it is this woman) doesn't want the album anymore. Looks like a lot of other people do. The original giver doesn't mind. Where's the problem?
If you give gifts, they should be given completely freely or not at all.
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Re: Miss Manners

Postby Germ War on Tue Jun 15, 2004 4:03 pm

johnnyshape wrote:She (if it is this woman) doesn't want the album anymore. Looks like a lot of other people do. The original giver doesn't mind. Where's the problem?
If you give gifts, they should be given completely freely or not at all.


And I think that, my friends, is the bottom line.

I want to get rid of a lot of my junk. It's all bogging me down anyway.
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Postby alexdamon on Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:10 pm

810 bucks...that would of paid my rent and then some....


say dear mr. albini,
you got an extra one of them records laying around-- you wanna like give to me as a gift or anything do ya?
i love you,
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Postby gcbv on Wed Jun 16, 2004 6:55 am

$810.


That is nothing but incredible.

If you do the math, that is 800 LPs with a net worth of $648,000.




It would just feel dirty to have someone else's record. And then not be able to pay rent and bills and eat for a month.
But I digress. Please continue with the squirrel circuit semantic debate.
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Postby same on Wed Jun 16, 2004 9:05 am

alexdamon wrote:…that would of paid my rent…


man, you southerners sure know how to fuck up some english.
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Re: Miss Manners

Postby Dylan on Wed Jun 16, 2004 9:58 am

Redline wrote:
when you get a gift, you're entitled to do whatever you like with it.


I disagree. Gifts should not be sold or given away. That's what my moms taught me, anyway.


Jay

I half agree. I don't think selling a gift is really right, but I do agree with the re-gift idea. I have done this quite a bit (family still doesn't have a clue who I am) and it works great. Less crap, less shopping.

The gift in question, though, is tricky - the record is entitled "Friends" to be given away to friends as a gesture. When a friend gives me something meaningful, I tend to keep it for quite some time. As long as I can, actually. Especially if that gift has "collector scum" status and I know that other people who are not particular friends of Shellac will be more than willing to pay for it. I mean, we're all dancing around the issue, but this is a rare Shellac recording, and what with all the other hoopla surrounding the bootleg question, can anyone be blamed for being nervous about this record's eventual fate?

$800+ for a record that can easily be duplicated and booted to thousands of rabid Shellac fans? That's pretty cheap, actually. In more ways than one...
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Postby johnnyshape on Wed Jun 16, 2004 10:49 am

If you give a gift to someone, you should give it with love, and give it away. I could care less about choosing and giving gifts, but once it goes to somone else it's up to them what to do with it. Otherwise it becomes a form of bondage to the giver.

And while I like Shellac hugely, I reckon if the material on The Futurist was any good, they would have released it to the public. No band, no matter how idiosyncratic or perverse, hides their best work by choice. Come on lads, admit it. It's rubbish, isn't it? :D
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Postby alexdamon on Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:48 am

alexdamon wrote:
…that would of paid my rent…


man, you southerners sure know how to fuck up some english.




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Postby toomanyhelicopters on Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:55 am

shoulda been "would have" or "would've"... "would of" isn't proper english. please don't move, whilst i notify her majesty the queen, etc.

he hadta been kidding, otherwise the sentence woulda been:
"Man, you southerners sure know how to fuck up some English". or something more like that. dang grammarians!
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Postby same on Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:09 pm

i'm guilty of gramar policing from time to time. it's a habit i picked up from the message board that i frequent most. i feel kind of hypocritical, writing in all lowercase, but that's more of just a laziness thing.
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Postby toomanyhelicopters on Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:13 pm

lol. you spelled grammar wrong, too. heh.
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Postby same on Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:27 pm

hey, if you can dish it out, you better be able to take it. i've also spelled it "grammer," recently. wait, should that comma come before or after the close parethesis? i'll go with before.
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