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have you seen this stephin Merritt article?

Postby turnbullac on Wed May 10, 2006 8:25 am

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Postby DrAwkward on Wed May 10, 2006 8:41 am

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Postby tipcat on Wed May 10, 2006 8:51 am

Frere-Jones' rants against SM are typical of the PC crowd. Crap.
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Re: have you seen this stephin Merritt article?

Postby tmidgett on Wed May 10, 2006 8:57 am



Ah, white guilt.

Hysterical, scattershot, bitchy white guilt at that.

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No. Kidding.
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Postby gio on Wed May 10, 2006 9:01 am

Wait, are Hopper and Frere-Jones homophobes?
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Postby dabrasha on Wed May 10, 2006 9:03 am

tipcat wrote:Frere-Jones' rants


Worst critic going?

Makes me miss my NYer subscription; I enjoyed my anger at those Frere-Jones' pieces...
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Re: have you seen this stephin Merritt article?

Postby Rimbaud III on Wed May 10, 2006 9:15 am

tmidgett wrote:
Jessica Hopper wrote:Lastly, I resent being called a journalist. I'm not.


No. Kidding.


She prefers to be credited as a 'textual engineer'.
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Re: have you seen this stephin Merritt article?

Postby clocker bob on Wed May 10, 2006 9:30 am

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Postby steve on Wed May 10, 2006 10:20 am

Flash! Jessica Hopper is a reactionary idiot! Sasha Frere-Jones is a New Yorker critic!

Having had a distaste for hip hop since its earliest days, I have run afoul of this mentality for twenty-odd years. If you are involved in contemporary music, it is presumed that you appreciate hip-hop, or are at least deferential toward it as an arm of black culture.

Since I have no taste for this profoundly stupid genre I have been called a racist on occasion. I am not bothered by this. I know that as a white man in the US I am directly and indirectly benefitting from genuine racism both specific and institutional. I have done so all my life, and I am ashamed of it. There is no uglier part of our culture, and I believe it influences almost everything in the public sphere. It may have had some dilute influence on shaping my tastes unbeknownst to me. I am even ashamed of the possibility of that. This is an attempt by someone else in my position to express and distance himself from this shame, and I understand it.

I have equivalent genre distaste for almost all heavy metal (hip hop's culture-mirror equivalent), pastiche production pop music like Brintey Spears, Beyonce, Avril Lavigne et al, the REM-U2-Radiohead axis of millionaire dabbling, trash auteurs like Outkast, Beck and the Beastie Boys, teenager fake punk, and melismatic divas like Celine Dion. This is less in service of elitism than in making it possible for me to walk directly to the part of the record store where the good records are. I know what kinds of music speak to me the least, so I don't spend my energy combing through them looking for exceptions.

Does this mean I limit myself? Certainly. I don't listen to as much bullshit as other people do. I am happy to carry this limitation. The groaning of the shelves under my record collection indicates that I am not wanting for variety in my listening because I don't own have either a Garth Brooks album or a Kool Keith 12-inch sitting there unlistened-to.

Picking on a tiny Southern queer for his music tastes and calling him a "cracker" is about as stupid as criticism can get.
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Postby clocker bob on Wed May 10, 2006 10:27 am

No one who expressed a dislike of polka would ever have to defend his attitudes toward Poles.
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Postby Gramsci on Wed May 10, 2006 10:33 am

So in the US liking Zip-A-Dee Doo-Dah makes you a racist? I would have thought burning a cross would have been more of an indication.
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Postby sunlore on Wed May 10, 2006 10:34 am

His music is witty and tender. He plays the ukulele. He named his Chihuahua after Irving Berlin.


wtf.
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Postby the Classical on Wed May 10, 2006 12:13 pm

sunlore wrote:
His music is witty and tender. He plays the ukulele. He named his Chihuahua after Irving Berlin.


wtf.


why wtf? My Chihuahua is named after Henry Miller. Naming Chihuahuas after mid-20th Century culutural icons is cool, dawg.
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Postby Ally In Exile on Wed May 10, 2006 12:34 pm

steve wrote:Picking on a tiny Southern queer for his music tastes and calling him a "cracker" is about as stupid as criticism can get.


yeah, no shit! it's especially ass-backwards given that most hip-hop culture is unabashedly homophobic. also, in addition to being a gay "intellectuall" from the south, Merritt is totally Jewish!

golly gee... i wonder why he doesn't own a cassingle of Brand Nubian's "Punks Jump Up To Get Beat Down", or that one Mad Professor record that samples Lewis Farrakhan?

i guess we'll never know.

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Postby sunlore on Wed May 10, 2006 12:48 pm

the Classical wrote:
sunlore wrote:
His music is witty and tender. He plays the ukulele. He named his Chihuahua after Irving Berlin.


wtf.


why wtf? My Chihuahua is named after Henry Miller.


Henry "lo behold this enthralling life I lead" Miller?

I repeat, wtf.
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Postby Gramsci on Wed May 10, 2006 12:59 pm

My friend confused the hell out of a record shop monkey when he brought Bad Brains and Screwdriver at the same time...
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Postby Major on Wed May 10, 2006 1:02 pm

Gramsci wrote:My friend confused the hell out of a record shop monkey when he brought Bad Brains and Screwdriver at the same time...


What the fuck do you mean by "monkey", cracka??!!
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Postby poolboy on Wed May 10, 2006 2:52 pm

Jessica Hopper, I think you are the racist here by sort of suggesting that all it takes not to be called one is to publicly approve of a certain musical genre. Hip Hop is, probably like any other, not a unifying genre, even among African Americans. Sorry I have to call you a stupid, ignorant cow.
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Postby geiginni on Wed May 10, 2006 3:38 pm

the Classical wrote:
sunlore wrote:
His music is witty and tender. He plays the ukulele. He named his Chihuahua after Irving Berlin.


wtf.


why wtf? My Chihuahua is named after Henry Miller. Naming Chihuahuas after mid-20th Century culutural icons is cool, dawg.


Does your Chihuahua refer to his schlong as "John Thursday" too?
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Postby the Classical on Wed May 10, 2006 3:40 pm

geiginni wrote:
the Classical wrote:
sunlore wrote:
His music is witty and tender. He plays the ukulele. He named his Chihuahua after Irving Berlin.


wtf.


why wtf? My Chihuahua is named after Henry Miller. Naming Chihuahuas after mid-20th Century culutural icons is cool, dawg.


Does your Chihuahua refer to his schlong as "John Thursday" too?


I dunno what he calls it, but I would bet Miller would be jealous of his ability to lick it
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