genre: "crossover thrash"

by **BClark** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:10 pm

recently i have been listening to some bands whose sound is part hardcore punk, part thrash metal....

examples:

the exploited
suicidal tendencies
the accused
corrosion of conformity
dri
stormtroopers of death

so... crap or not crap?
and if you like this sort of stuff, any recommendations of other bands?

by **rocker654** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:45 pm

Never heard of it.

However, the bands you cite lead me to believe that this music must be part of the genre referred to as "crapola".

by **a. james** on Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:08 pm

crossover crap.

by **elmofreech** on Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:02 am

love "speak english or die." love "join the army."

NOT CRAP.

Maybe check out Municipal Waste?

by **mega therion** on Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:28 am

ACCUSED -first two LPs
CRYPTIC SLAUGHTER - first two LPs
A handful of Japanese bands

The rest is pretty much garbage.

Website · by **Chapter Two** on Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:09 am

You need these.

The Crossover idea meant a lot to me at the time (late eighties / early nineties), as the scene I got involved in was constituted mainly of metal heads and hardcore kids. I wouldn't listen to much of that stuff now, but it was great at the time. Not crap.

Early Prong were fucking brutal. Get those two records.

by **Rick Reuschel** on Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:00 pm

BClark wrote:recently i have been listening to some bands whose sound is part hardcore punk, part thrash metal....

examples:

the accused

so... crap or not crap?
and if you like this sort of stuff, any recommendations of other bands?

I thought you meant Rights of the Accused.

I liked "Eye for an Eye" COC and the first Suicidals record.

by **scott** on Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:10 pm

You forgot Bad Brains!

Totally NOT CRAP, as long as it has enough of the thrash metal.

I think the strength of hardcore is the personal side of it, the almost (dare I say) emo aspect of it, where songs are about things in the singer's life that mean a lot to him, personal shit. I think metal was really too outward most of the time, like "here's our song about the destruction of the environment", "here's our song about the death penalty", or the prison system, or the corruption of the church, or elves fighting dragons, etc. Hardcore seems more like "I'm pissed off at the way you're treating me" or some other kinda more *personal* shit, rather than being so externalized.

I'll take thrash over hardcore, purely for the musical side of it. I like math rock, too, so... a bit more technical music does more for me than just raw, fast, edgy, etc.

Bands breaking out of a mold, or moving from one sound to another, I like it, as long as it's moving in a good direction. Voivod's first four albums would be a good example of that. Then with the 5th they started to go too far, and after that they kinda lost their way. Voivod's second and third album are great examples of the meeting ground between hardcore, thrash/speed metal, death metal, techy prog stuff, all that.

What genre does Drive Like Jehu fall into?

Man I hate genre-naming.

by **a. james** on Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:27 pm

elmofreech wrote:Maybe check out Municipal Waste?

ugh...hate them.

not sure who i hate more, them or their fans.

fucking richmond sometimes...man...blech.

by **rocker654** on Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:36 pm

scott wrote:You forgot Bad Brains!

I don't think that the Bad Brains should be besmirched by getting lumped in with the rest of the garbage bands listed on this thread.

by **chairman_hall** on Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:58 pm

N/C

I love Cro Mags and S.O.D. As mentioned earlier it needs to have the thrash metal guitars really.

Suicidal Tendancies however - VERY CRAP.

by **erskine** on Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:17 pm

the exploited :not crap for the early punk/hc stuffs , crap for the rest
suicidal tendencies :self-titled lp is not crap
the accused :not crap at all , especially "grinning like an undertaker"
(early)dri :not crap

negazione:not crap
citizens arrest :not crap

by **skatingbasser** on Sat Dec 23, 2006 10:18 am

Ah yes, Municipal Waste. The band everyone in the Pittsburgh punk scene likes to pretend is from Pittsburgh. I think they are awesome, but wish they'd get more of that forceful hardcore "push."

I like Suicidal, but their gimmick gets old. Too much slappity-pip-pop bass now, too. Cro Mags are alright, but god, I hate S.O.D. "Speak English or Die?"

Crossover thrash as an idea? Great. Would probably be my favorite genre if it was executed right. Or executed right more often. But awful execution leading to only a handful of good bands sends this genre spinning in a world of waffles.

edit: 1000th post. Two and a half years here. That's not too pathetic.